Rob Leatham

Worlds Collide: Natural Point of Aim

Rob Leatham
Duration:   2  mins

Description

Champion competition shooter Rob Leatham and defensive shooting instructor Rob Pincus talk about the concept of natural point of aim and if there is such a thing as “correct” positioning of the feet while drawing and firing.

Natural Point of Aim

One of Rob Leatham’s pet peeves is natural point of aim. As Rob explains, take a competition shooter with two targets close together. He would draw his gun and move a couple of inches here and there between the two targets. As Rob has become a more competent shot by shooting in more matches, he has realized that due to movement and getting into and out of various positions during match stages, he can’t get a perfect natural point of aim.

When he teaches defensive handgun training classes and students ask him how to get that perfect grip and stance, he replies that there isn’t one.

Body Positioning

Rob Pincus picks it up from there. He tells defensive shooting students that he wants them to start out by having their feet equally distant from the target when drawing the gun. But an hour later, the class is doing lateral movement, reloading while moving, and turning their hips — what happens to the feet being equally distant from the target then?

Sometimes one foot ends up behind the other. So how important is it that both feet be squared to the target? Rob stresses that position is the starting place for being able to drive out and shoot, but the bottom line is that if you can’t drive out and shoot with either foot farther back than the other, it means you can’t apply the skills you have learned.

During firearms training, start out with both feet equal distance from the target just so you don’t think you have to start with one foot in front of the other.

To sum it up, during training and practice, don’t think about where your feet are going to be, because you don’t know where they are going to be in the fight.

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One Response to “Worlds Collide: Natural Point of Aim”

  1. steven m thul

    Great training examples, I use the info I get for all my CCW classes up here in MN.

I got a thing to show you Rob, where I think the defensive world actually helps the competition world. All right. Normally we just annoy you, right? Right. No, no, no, no, it's not that. It's a different thing that annoys me. Not you, that was the royal you. It's really just you that annoys me not the defensive world. Fair enough, fair enough. No. One of my big pet peeves is this natural point of aim thing. You take a competition shooter. And if he had those two targets, he would sit here, he would draw his gun on his set up and he'd move a couple inches here and a couple inches there. As I get better and better and better and become a more competent shot and shoot more and more matches, I realize hell I'm shooting from in movement, I'm going to positions, I can't get a perfect natural point of aim. And I think that's one of the things when I teach the defensive classes is that people say, "well, how do you "get that perfect grip and stance?" I says, "Well there isn't one." And this is the thing, right? So in our classes, we'll tell people you know, " I want you "to start out, when you first start out, you're gonna draw "that gun. "You're gonna get in your shooting base." And I'll talk about basically your feet need to be equally distanced from the target. And they're gonna say, "Okay." And then you know, an hour later we're doing lateral movement and they're moving and they're moving while they're reloading and they're turning their hips, they're doing all this. And sometimes your right foot ends up back. Sometimes your left foot. And then sooner or later I'll get somebody who kinda puts it all together. And they'll say, "Well, wait a minute, Rob. "Now my right foot's in front, I think "that's why I'm missing." And I'm like, "No, you're missing the point." The feet equal distance apart. Sure, that's a starting place to be able to drive out and shoot. But at the end of the day, if I can't drive out and shoot here, if I can't drive out and shoot here, I can't apply those skills. So start out equal distance, just so you don't think, "I have to be here." Remember that picture I sent you of me doing some competition shooting like 20 years ago? Right with the box. Two things that were notable about that, you had hair and you had a compensated pistol. Oh my God, a compensated pistol. It looked like a 19 level with a comp on it. Don't let that picture out on the internet. But did you notice my foot was cranked way over there, because what? Because I was thinking about Probably aiming over here. aiming for that next target when I was gonna transition. Don't think about where your feet are gonna be 'cause you don't know where your feet are gonna be in the fight.
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