S.W.A.T. Magazine TV Lost Episode 4: Fighting While in Contact

Shoot houses like this one, or a great place to learn how to use weapons in tight quarters. But what if there isn't time to get to a weapon? Or what if you don't have one? Today on S.W.A.T Magazine TV, Cecil Burch is gonna talk to us, about the fundamentals of Crazy Monkey defense and practical Jujitsu skills. Then come back quick. Good, that was good. To keep a little more control with the waist-lock, five seconds. And break. Okay, let's switch. Ready, go. Five seconds. Good, nicely done. But once you get that waist-lock, hold onto it, break. Once you have... Just real quick guys, once you have... Once I've secured this lock, even if I'm only using it as a way stop, I need to establish control. I need to establish dominant position. I'm not just... Okay, I'll hold onto him and move, 'cause I have to assume he's fighting back. So if I have done the control, I'm driving just a little bit, he's off, he can feel he's not in a great position. Cecil, What is Crazy Monkey defense? Crazy Monkey defense is a boxing, and Muay Thai based system. It looks outwardly similar to anything else you seen. The main point is how we approach it, defense comes first. Let's not sacrifice our defense just to land a punch, Let's stay in the fight, stay conscious, Let's keep fighting and then worry about beating the other guy. Plus it's also designed from the ground up to deal with the grappler, the street fighter, somebody who's gonna do something more than punch or kick us. Now you have a background, when it comes to the ground step two. What are we gonna see also, in terms of what you're doing with your Jujitsu. We're gonna be looking at the basic method of how to approach getting up off the ground, worrying about the guy on... You're on the bottom, he's on top, we have to deal with that, before we worry about getting up, before we about sweeping him, submitting him doing that, we have to stay safe and escape. Being an armed citizen, means having a gun with you all the time. Carrying a firearm every day requires a holster that is both concealable and comfortable or the you choose our super tuck deluxe or mini tuck, you'll have the confidence that comes from being discreetly and comfortably armed, prepared to face unforeseen dangers, crossbreed holsters are handmade in the USA, come with a lifetime warranty and a two week try it free guarantee, order your holster today at crossbreedholsters.com. All right guys, let's just do a quick review the core CM stuff to make sure we're all dialed in, before we head to the hard drill and start getting punched. So important, our hips are always square, we gotta keep our hips square, it allows us to handle energy, being dumped into us. It allows us to project energy and it allows us to help... Start our primary defense against a wrestler. He can't take us down because we're always ready to sprawl, we're way ahead of the game. Okay, so my rear heel is always up. That allows that... That's my spring, that allows me to drive forward, that allows me to take energy. Okay, so you never drop that, hands always in contact with the head anywhere you want along, the orbital bone is fine with me. Do you like... If you wanna have your palms in a little bit more, that's great, if you wanna go seam of the glove out, that's irrelevant, as long as there's contact with your head, okay. We do not wanna get into this habit of, Oh yeah, my hands are up, my hands are up, as you get tired and you get tired more and more tired. You think your hands are up and that's when you hit the shot. So as long as I always have contact, I know I'm safe. Our elbows are as close to our rib cage as possible, I don't wanna be chicken winging, and I also don't want my hands to start going up as I punched, everything comes from center, to punch and it also allows me to defend, if he shooting in on me. I need to stop that wrestler from establishing the clinch, my elbows are out. That's what he wants. So I'm gonna deny it to him, okay. So hands in contact basic, our Pat... Our active defense now is I'm essentially combing my hair and the elbow comes up to center line, let the arm do the work. My structure is still in the same basic platform, square hips, rear heel up, everything's square to the target I'm gonna let my elbow replace my jaw, and the other hands are protecting the temple. So now when the guy is punching straight down the shoot he's gonna be running into hard barrier, It's gonna be running into my shield. The other thing to remember as we're doing this is that it's not... I'm not waiting for him to punch, to do it, I'm moving my arms all the time, regardless because if I wait for him to punch, he might beat me. I'm betting my reflexes against his not always a good fight. I want to remove as much attributes as I possibly can from the game, because I need to assume that my opponents bigger, stronger, faster, tougher more experienced than I am. All right guys, this drill, we call it Wall drill. It's one of our foundational training methods. The idea is, I'm in the worst scenario I can possibly be in, I can not move, I can't retreat, I can't fire back. It could be, you've been sucker punched, ambushed, rushed or he just... You were fighting and he got a shot in that's dungeon. So you don't get to do all your cool stuff, you have to weather the storm, lock down your structure and deal with that before you can take the initiative back. We wanna push it as much as he can handle it, as long as the structure remains strong that his brain remains in the fight. If he's panicking, he's not gonna get any benefit out of the drill. Okay, ready and go. Less shoulder Pat, more elbow. Square up Carry, score up. Five seconds. Break, okay switch. Same thing ready, go. There you go, keep your hips square Rob. Pick up your feet, that's good. Five seconds. Don't lean straight down and break. As I'm doing my stuff, I'm moving, when I change my elevation and I can get even part of the punch dissipated pass me. Okay, I don't need this, I don't need it to just whiz pass me and I look really cool. If it's just this much, that's fine. 'Cause what I can't do, is drive straight into him like that. It's not gonna work at some point, he can just keep hitting me. So as soon as there's some gap, I'm keeping my structure locked down, I'm not extending my arms and elbow, and all the elbows have to stay in. I'm gonna drive straight forward into him, until my forearm, slam into his torso. Once I have that, I'm gonna get to the side, go low body lock, secure it, make sure I have control. Then I'm gonna step offline, preferably anywhere from here on this way. It's up to you, I usually go more to the back. So I'll go here and re-engage or it's my choice. All right, so again, we'll just do 20 seconds. Ready, go. Then come back quick. Good, that was good. But keep a little more control with the waist lock, five seconds. And break. Once you have... Once I've secured this lock, even if I'm only using it as a way stop, I need to establish control. I need to establish dominant position. I'm not just... Okay, I've hold onto him and move. 'Cause I have to assume he's fighting back, so if I have dominant control, I'm driving just a little bit, he's off, he can feel he's not in a great position. So now I have time and it's gonna take him that extra second to turn and re-engage, okay. Cecil, great stuff. Thanks. Obviously you get a little winded with all 20 seconds workout... Absolutely. You're working pretty good. Working with Kyle, obviously trained in combatives for both new to CM, but the stuff makes sense, makes that feel a solid really stuff. Once you know you can weather the storm, once you can take shots and you're not getting battered around. It's a nice, safe, comfort zone, that you can then start continuing to fight. What's coming up next? What are we gonna see later in the show? Well, we'll get on the ground, work some escape from the bottom and see how we can deal with that situation. All right, sounds good, more with Cecil Burch, as the show goes on thanks for watching S.W.A.T Magazine TV. S.W.A.T Magazine delivers great information straight to your doorstep every month. Head over to swatmag.com and subscribe today. When we look at defending ourselves in these close quarters situations. We realize that this is actually a lethal threat, It's not a piece of paper. This is someone coming at us with energy maybe with a weapon. We actually left to defend ourselves while we're doing the shooting, if we choose to use our firearm. Now the old school approach was to think about simply rocking our weight back as if the piece of paper was really representing the energy of a normal human being. And we can just hold it there while we leaned back and shot. Another way to think about it would have been to have pushed off or just shoved, or even the punch with our off-hand, while we try to create distance and draw our firearm. And again, we just don't see those types of simplistic answers playing out in the real world. When we actually have to deal with the energy of this person coming at us. The best option, if you really wanna get into advanced training is to look at something like Craig Douglas's in-flight weapons, access concepts. The concepts of how we're going to use our unarmed skills against this person to try to control their attack and clear our ability to actually reach back with our strong hand and access our firearm, our primary defensive tool, usually gonna be carried strong side hip. Another way to do it is to use intermediate force tools. Intermediate forest tools can be something like a knife for example, preferably a knife that's carried center line or offside so that if we are having trouble getting to our firearm even in a retention situation, we do have the option of moving to our center line with our offhand and actually deploying some type of intermediate force. In this case, something like this knife, we bring this knife out of course I could have reached that knife with my strong hand, just as easily, if this hand were tied up and I wasn't a position to go to my firearm or I chose not to go to my firearm. So something like a knife can make a great intermediate forest tool that I can then use to cause distraction, pain, obviously disablement or a lethal attack, a lethal defense if I needed to, and I was justified in doing that. Another thing that you may be more comfortable with if you aren't in a situation where you can carry a knife concealed, you can carry that as a lethal weapon is something like laser lights, I.C.E Pick. Now this particular device is an intermediate force device, which is actually a pen on the inside. It's actually a laser pointer in terms of normal use, and when you carry it around, but clearly you can use this as a tool to generate force, to concentrate your energy against the target in a coupon Baton type way. We also have this point out here that can be used to cause pain and distraction as well as launch significant attacks against the throat, against the eyes, against the head. You wanna think about this situation of being tied up, maybe I'm using my strong hand to control a knife to control some type of attack to defend myself. I can come down and access my intermediate force tool, and even if I simply cause a distraction by jamming this point into the rib cage, into the torso of my attacker, 'cause anytime you jam something into a person they're very likely to reach for it, to be distracted by it, to turn away from it. Whereas this person turns away as they reached down to touch this, to defend themselves from this pressure whether it's coming into the rib cage, coming into the center line, even coming into the upper body, or the face that could present my opportunity to then create space, get my firearm out And actually be able to defend myself from that lethal attack as I would prefer to with my firearm. Understanding how to use your body and to use your good unarmed skills in close is vitally important, but using something like an intermediate force tool like the I.C.E Pick or a knife, something carried on your center line or on the off side is gonna give you a great option for creating space from the attack without having to rely solely on your unarmed skills. All right guys, let's just do a quick review of the core CM stuff to make sure we're all dialed in, before we head to the hard drill and start getting punched. I've been competing from the beginning and as the sport grew, partly because of MMA, partly because the Federation pretty professional and trying to get good referees and it's run well, and the art grew. We have a good amount of competition, So I always hit the Pan Americans, hit the American nationals, the world championships, even though as a black belt that's incredibly difficult that division. I think the stress and pressure of a competition having a couple of thousand people watch you, really helps my performance on and off the map, whether it's a street situation or not, just getting used to that stress is the enjoyable thing. So now I have time, and it's gonna take him that extra second to turn and re-engage. Crazy monkey defense pretty much started around '97, '98. My coach Rodney King is in South Africa, he started it. He was in the South African military, he became a bouncer, he was a boxer, started going to Thailand, training Thai boxing, and he basically saw, as long as you stayed conscious, you were able to stay up and keep going, probably you would come out okay. The minute lights went out, really bad stuff would happen, and he saw it night after night. So he started thinking, wait a minute I've got this great method, boxing, kickboxing there's solid proven delivery system but we need to concentrate on defense first. Let's focus on defense, let's stay in the fight, Let's stay conscious, then we can worry about knocking him out. Good, that's perfect. This isn't my vocation... My advocation that's something I love to do. I have a couple CM classes a week at my coach Jujitsu gym, I fill in teaching some of the Jujitsu classes. I'm also there on the mat three, four, four times a week, as often as I can on run up to tournaments on might be six to eight times a week. You need to be aiming at his face or at him. I teach because I see people like me out there, I see people who are not athletic, who have no gifts, I have none. I was the last kid picked and PE class, I had never had... I played a few sports but never particularly good at it, I've had asthma all my life, that I've had to deal with and I'm not particularly quick on the draw mentally with, 'Oh, I get that.' So it's been a struggle for me and I see other people out there, but I think I... I deserve the information myself, for myself, protect myself, my family. And I don't see why other people shouldn't, so if I can help them, that's why I feel it's sort of a calling that maybe I can help and I can help that guy or that woman or the child in my situation with saving some steps that I had to go through. I'm moving my arms all the time regardless, because by wait for him to punch, he might beat me. I never would've thought 20 years ago doing this kind of thing that I would end up in this place where not only am I having fun and working on my own performance but I get to be out there and maybe helping other people. It's just such a enjoyable thing, and to have the mentors that I have, have those people not just as mentor, but as good friends as well, it's pretty satisfying thing to go through life with. 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I decided to ask our experts how they feel about training to shoot while contact with a threat. Extremely important, I think anything that we could possibly encounter in a struggle or in a fight, if we can imagine that it could happen or know that it could happen we need to, we need to practice it because we're gonna fall back on what we've prepared ourselves to do. Not rise up to the level of our expectations of ourselves without any training to back it up. Very important and they constantly need to work on, and work it into in almost every training. I think it's a necessary thing, it's a reality, unfortunately, we live in a very civilized world for the most part, and so being able to be at this close proximity with somebody is... I don't think you're gonna walk around with a seven yard bubble around you. You're gonna have to be close up, you're gonna have to know how to... How to do things. I think that at close range is going to a gun and it conversation distance, isn't your best option, a lot of times, I mean, it's a option but it may not be the best option. I think being able to get to it at a certain point in that conflict is critical, but initially you might actually put yourself at a huge disadvantage. If that's the only thing you have going to. I've got to go, I've got to clear leather, I got to get to that. I think there are more things that you should be thinking about. It should just be an option. It's probably more important for the average person than it is for a military person, A law enforcement they may deal with that a little bit more than the military but in the average... If you're carrying a gun everyday out in the street as an armed civilian, I think it's extremely important for the simple fact that you never know when somebody may see your gun and they may try to take it away from you. They may try to grab you or your kids or your wife and you may have to defend yourself and that's gonna all happen at a pretty close proximity. So you got to get comfortable with that on the range before it happens in real life. A lot of times we spend our training time already at the ready, and you know we get really proficient with our marksmanship, that's great, however, that's not real. So training to get to that point is way overlooked in this in our industry and society, to be honest with you, people that carry. It's one thing to be ready, but that's not why we carry, and when we have to use a firearm, we need to be prepared from that point of startled response to presentation of that firearm, and it's often overlooked. So it is extremely vital that we practice that. It's huge because of the fact that, in law enforcement are most engagements are occurring within three feet of each other and a huge percentage of them do. And when that's gonna take place you have to know how to employ your weapon and do it to where you're gonna be able to save your own life, not to mention the lives of those around you. All right guys. What we're gonna talk about now is escaping the bottom, worst possible situation you can be in you're on the bottom, he's on top, he has control. So we have three basic concepts as our foundation that we need to work. The first is we'll call it survival position, 'cause that's an easiest thing, so I'm on the bottom. We'll just say that my opponent's right here, Maybe he's knocked me down or I've and he's already passing my legs and he's coming down for psych control. The worst thing I can do is try to turn away from him to escape. The problem is not only can he take my back and control me, I can't see what he's doing. So if he starts kicking, jumping, whatever I'll never be able to defend it. So my immediate goal is I need to turn into him at all times. I need to face him as much as I possibly can. The second thing I'm looking for is the essentially a four points of contact with the ground, both hips, both shoulders. Now the fewer points I have in contact with the ground that the easier it is, he is gonna to create movement. If I'm here, both hips and both shoulders down I've got to do a lot more work before I can start moving. But if I face him and try to get. So in this position, I basically have hip and shoulder up so I can start moving. Okay, so the key though, once I'm facing him is that I have my arms in, I cannot extend, I cannot have my elbows out. The more I allow my... Elbows to move from my rib cage the more room he has to control me to attach to me and to start attacking with joint locks or whatever. So this is the first position, everything that happens, you need to get back to this before you start the next step. He thrown you down and you're like this don't start worrying about escaping go, Oh, I have to adjust here first. Elbows in, if he has one elbow up work to this position before he get to the next step, okay. Then from here, we're gonna work two movements, okay, the first is Oopa, which is essentially hip bridge. All I'm gonna do, the Oopa was used to get my opponent's weight up. So I'm gonna bring my feet to my... As close to my butt as I possibly can, and I'm gonna arch up onto my shoulders, the ideas I'm gonna get his weight up here and off me as I drop now I have space to move. That's one, Oopa. The second one is hip escape, that's used to get my hips away from my opponent. So in this case, I will come to this foot and this shoulder and everything else is off the ground, and I move. And here's the thing I can give you this technique, this technique, this technique, and it goes in an orderly fashion. The problem is you might never get to that situation that those techniques present themselves. But, if instead of thinking of what technique do we know if we think let's stay safe, let's protect ourselves and defend ourselves and then create movement by getting his weight off of us and our hips away from himm then we can come to our knees or we can pull guard. All I'm gonna do is I'm gonna push Rob down to either way I'm gonna push one way or the other, push him down. I'm gonna come around to side and all I'm gonna do is I'm just put my weight. Basically I don't want to look for control yet, okay. I'm gonna be here, he's gonna hit a survival position. And then from here, he's gonna start whatever combination of Oopa and hip escape you want. It can be one Oopa and you're out, it can be one hip escaping and you're out. It might be Oopa, Oopa, hip escape and you're out, I don't know, it's the same as punching. You might jab cross hook, jab, jab, hook, hook, cross and something happens. So I'm gonna come here and Rob's just gonna start moving. The hip escape. And see, now he's got... This is good distance now for him, he can go belly down and come to his knees or he can go to put his legs in between us and go to guard. But he's created the distance through movement not through some particular set technique. Good. And it might be two moves, it might be 10, don't turn though. Once you're up to your knees. Yeah, once you're up to your knees like that, then go back to your knees and then shoot this arm behind his leg, there, and now you can come up safely. If as I do this and I create maybe this much space but I feel I can move. Well I could go guard and we can work from here, okay. If I get more, if is I'm doing it, I'm able to get here and I have more room, now I can come to my knees. But I can't make that decision ahead of time, it's a result of the Oopa and hip escape and how he's responding. Good. Keep doubles in Rob, keep doubles in. Good, good, sweet. All right, guys break. All right, so normally the next step, what we do from there is we add in the weapons. We give one partner, the tool, and again it becomes his choice to say, I'm gonna use it or not. So you on the bottom you have to have your mind working, what's he do is holding? to hold me down, where is he going to hit? Is he moving for a better position? Is he going from cross-sight to knee-belly on belly? Is he going from mouth? He's trying to take my back? Is he standing up? Because now he wants to soccer kick. I have to pay attention to that, and I also have to work. Is he reaching for his waistband? Is he reaching behind him? I have to think about all that kind of stuff. So why don't we grab a drink and take a brake. You find out real quick how much you need a break rolling around Especially in this... So much energy, you know, I mean, as soon as the guy puts his weight on you you've been trying to work simple techniques like this. It takes some effort and energy. Cecil I love the simplicity of your approach to the unarmed game. How did you come to this as a solution for you? A lot of it is my coach, a lot of it is my coach, Megaton Diaz, he's very much you do this. You don't sit and pontificate, you don't talk about a bunch of techniques have your core techniques and work them, work them over and over until you understand where they come into play not where somebody says do this now. And that's the biggest part, and then again, it's just for myself, It's my own mat time. Just getting on there, rolling with white belts, blue belts, purple, brown, blacks go into competitions getting beat by the best and occasionally doing okay in winning, that's where you comes from. You're still an active competitor? You obviously an active teacher, we really appreciate you being on S.W.A.T Magazine TV, the work you're doing with Crazy Monkey, the work you're doing with Team Megaton, completely simple, completely appropriate for anybody interested in self-defense. You need the conditioning, you need the mat time. I appreciate you being on the show. Thanks a lot Rob. Thanks for watching S.W.A.T Magazine TV.