Next Level SIRT Training Pistol: 110 SPOT Trainer

Alright, I'm here with my good friend, Mike Hughes of Next Level Training, famous for the SIRT pistol. And he has made something happen that has never happened before. I don't think I've ever worn a red-dot equipped pistol. Certainly never worn a red-dot equipped pistol with slide cuts in a sweet gold honeycomb barrel like this is generally what I think of when we talk about the red-dots on the pistols. I mean it's something we've looked at, I see it as just anybody wants to throw extra stuff on there maybe making things more complicated than they need to, but you're now testing this out too, right? Like this is the Holosun. Which one do you have? I have the Trijicon, alright. So we rolled with the Trijicon and this is on a gen four, which is mounted for that slide. A little bit of an aftermarket thing to make it work. It's a 3.5 millimeter that means it does have to have the battery. Apparently the battery does last two years. It's a 2032 for your common battery. You do have to take it off, put it on recite it when you change the battery, this and that. One thing I have done, Rob. And I just thought I'd recommend for everyone out there is I put on suppressor sites actually from Britain. So we have sites that are co-witnessed with the dot and they sit within that picture. So if this fails I have the suppressor sites to fall back on. And that's one of the things we've worried about. I know you've looked at this for a long time. I go all the way back to the EPC, Electro Prismatic Collimator back in the nineties. And I know you've looked at you've used them in competition but this was the first time that maybe you revisiting it in a while and it's because it's a trending, right? Everybody is doing this. Well there's a slight correction I've never used them in competition, Really? I've observed them being used Wow. Okay. Interesting interesting. Well, here's what I have observed. And this is, again, this is going from the past. I have observed failures. Right? I observed them breaking. I have observed them being drawn with a cover on Right trying to save the battery and all that stuff. Okay, that's interesting So I've used red dots in competition and you haven't, I don't think there's anything I've ever done in competition that you haven't in the handout. So check that box for Rob, but because these are so popular because you're looking at them, I'm constantly revisiting them because the students are showing up with them. Again, I'm still seeing a lot of potential negatives but the fact is people have them and you're a training company that supports good training practices. So you now have we have the spot trainer, alright. So this is really simple. As you know what the SIRT training pistol we have a take-up laser, a red take up laser. When you prep the trigger and then a shot indicating laser, a different laser when you break the shot. What we done is, is very simple. We put a spot trainer, SIRT pistol optical trainer on top and it just fits into the dovetail. I'll be honest with you. This is nothing more impressive than a toilet paper roll on top of our SIRT, Okay. But smaller and color matched with the grip. Exactly as those benefits. So but it really does it, it fits in the Glock. It's easy to take off. We have loose tolerances on our dovetail so you can pop, pop, pop, all those design features. It's hollow. Okay. You use the take-up laser as you're siting. So you co-witness. It is coming with and actually lets make this on the spot. Not just one, but two hex wrenches, 1.5 millimeters. Cause we always loses things, Right So I wanna give people extra hex wrench, put one in your wallet by your CCW card or what have you so you can adjust it and you co-witness, the red and the green if you have a pro model. So when you prep the trigger, upon presentation you start a very, very important training with regard to your natural point of aim. Because as we know With these technologies, this technology, natural point of aim is all the more critical, Right. I've seen this happen to myself. You got to have the gun lower. Sure. Right. And I see people fishing around trying to find the dot cause the dots not on the damn screen. Well you know, a lot of people will say, woo! you have a red-dot on your rifle. Why wouldn't you pull on your pistol? Well, the rifles attached to my face. So the dots on ones in the right place with the pistol out here, it's not as forgiving, right? It's not Like you said so, and depending on the size of the window and the size of the dot and all these things, so there's a learning curve. Well, again, Next Level Training the SIRT pistol is about shortening that learning curve making it easier for you to train even when you're not in the live fire range. So basically now, you said something that I wanna clarify you talked about using the take-up laser which means you're going to be pressing the trigger in order to see the dot. Correct. Now, if you're one of those people who still thinks it's a good idea to have your gun at extension when you're not actually about to shoot somebody and your finger, like, you know in a safe position and you know, Hey you knock it off. I don't agree, right. I think you should be in a ready position when you drive that gun out you're committed to shooting. So you are going to be placing your finger on the trigger. And I think you can just do it right to the camera. Go ahead and show them what happens when you hit that take up laser Sure. We've got the camera here. So I come up, I coat and I start prepping. Laser comes on, its in the site then I break and I get the green light, right? Right? So that red laser is showing up. And again, it's not like a normal set up because normally you wouldn't see the take-up laser in your vision at all because your gun would be kinesthetically aligned. The laser would be hidden behind the gun. That's why the Allen wrenches you're raising that, that point of aim indication for 15 feet 20 feet, whatever your normal training model is for home defense, close quarters, personal defense. And you're actually gonna see that dot and it's training you to obviously look through the canopy of the spot, to see the dot. Exactly, exactly, huge cause here's the deal. A lot of departments are going to optics, Right. And they don't have training or some of them at least don'T have training protocols. Right. And their natural point of aim is better dialed in. You have to. Absolutely. So it's a cheap, effective way to get that training in, in short blocks. So people have a better position to be successful with this technology And I think that's it. And this is you being, I think just a good steward of the customers of the SIRT, you're on the fence. I think still on whether it's a great idea. I'm definitely still leaning towards, I don't think that you really gain much in a personal defense environment. You have to do 30 yard shots, there's no doubt the red dots is there. Right. But for personal defense, I don't know if it's a great idea, but I do know what's a great idea. If you have one of these on your carry gun and you have a SIRT pistol, the spot makes sense because now you can train the way you're actually carrying. And I appreciate you doing that for the community. Even if you're not convinced it's the best idea for any individual Correct.