All right. I'm out here on another one of these hot Florida days with Brian Canova of EAG tactical. And we're gonna do another drill that's, that's really become a standard in the community. And it's a drill that I have done before with a pistol, but not with a rifle. Uh Talk to me a little bit about what we're about to do. Yeah, we're gonna shoot the fast drill, fast drill has been around a long time. It's almost always a pistol drill. So we shot at pistol pretty heavy. Um We like it a lot and then one day we just picked up a car beam to see what, what it did. And then what we saw was with a fast drill. We were able to measure several different categories and it threw some different looks at us that we wouldn't see with a pistol. So based on that, we've kept it around a little bit and we like it, it's just a, it's just a mixed up version of, of fast and what it really was just with some changes in it for the carving. Sure. So go over what the drill is basically. This drill was developed by Todd Louis Green. Uh, who we lost, uh, several years ago. Um, I was, I don't know, were you friends with Todd? Yes. Yeah, I was friendly with Todd. We would give each other some back and forth and we had a lot of fun. There's a great video floating around of us having some fun with the fast drill with a pistol, uh, for a charity event at a conference once that's out there on the internet. But I've never shot this drill with the, with the rifle. Um I'm sure he'd get a laugh out of what he's about to see as well if he's watching from up above right now. Yeah. So what we're looking for with the car be is this, um, it's four to the body which the body being in the big circle and on the sheet bolt lock reload and two to the credit card, the three by five. So what we look at is this measuring speed on presentation, a good cadence of four rounds into the circle looking at our reload. And then when we go to the credit card box, we have to factor a mechanical offset and we're going from fast target to slow target. So that gear change of, of slowing the shooter down to get precision tends to be way harder than that. They're able to speed up easy, but slowing down tends to throw a wrench in it sometimes, right? And we, we of course, this is what we know at personal defense network as balance of speed and precision. This is a balance of speed and precision drill, even though the, the number of shots are, are specific and choreographed and you do it immediately. Now, uh Todd always had a standard, I don't remember off the top of my head, what it was on the pistol drill. Uh We're really looking at this as an individual performance kind of marker, not necessarily competing against them when they're trying to meet a time. Is that right for you? I do. Um I just, I go from shooter to shooter to me, I just want to see a shooter progress. So if I can establish a base time for them, then we know the direction we need to go. And as long as their performance is getting better and better, we're headed in the right direction. Cool. All right. Well, let's try it. So I've got one magazine with two rounds loaded. Actually, at this point, there's one round in the magazine, I think, and one in the chamber. And then I've got, uh, no, that's not true. I've got four, so three and one and then I've got two here for the headshots deal. Now you're gonna reload from the pocket, right? So realistically, if you're coaching someone, you need to allow more time for the pocket reload than you would from a belt pouch, which a little fast. And, and again, to your point. Like if we're running a standard, that's important. If I'm always gonna run from the back pocket, then it's still apples to apples as I progress. Exactly. With the original fast drill, there was time standards based off the equipment you ran because you were trying to earn that coin. Exactly. Got it. Got it for body reload to the credit card shooter. Ready, ready. Stand by good time is a 608. All right. So 608. Now, here's what's important I think to, to talk about when people see this. Like if you just, if you read the transcript, right, Rob Pincus shoots a 608 with a rifle on the fast drill. Not an impressive time. And I think I could go faster for sure. But here's the trick. You have to remember what a I constantly run the charging handle. If I really gaming this. If we were gonna try to, if we were trying to see who was gonna buy the whiskeys tonight, I would hit that bolt catch and I would have been reloaded faster. But I always preach and teach as personal defense network members know, run that charging handle for uh, you know, insurance, right? To make sure you, you've got a, a manipulation that works. Even if the bolts forward, you get full compression, you get maximum momentum, all that stuff. And again, reloading for a back pocket. Why again when we talk about armed home defense. If I grab a rifle, I'm not grabbing a plate carrier, I'm not wearing a battle belt. I'm not on duty with a rifle. I'm grabbing an extra mag and stick it in a waistband or stick it in your back pocket. So while, while six seconds from a competition in the fast drill world is, is, you know, twice as long as some guys are doing it at the same time, that might be a lot closer to my goal. If I'm thinking about always reloading from the pocket and always running the charging handle and you talked about allowing for variation. But I think the more important part of that is not just the allowing for variation on a standard sense. Uh But really when you're doing it at home and you're doing it your way, your way is for you. And if as long as you're consistent, then those times are relevant, relevant when compared to one another, right? So what I would look at is my overall times, my overall time. If I'm not shooting against my buddy being competitive, I don't get wound up about it. But I look at the small pieces of that puzzle. Hey, what was my presentation time? How did as much as I don't get wound up on splits? How smooth was my cadence on those four shots? How fast was my reload? You know, according to where my mag was, did I employ mechanical offset? Did I hit the smaller harder target and was I able to make that gear change to slow down to get that precision? So those are the things I look at more than overall speed. So now with that in mind, let's go ahead and, and sort of like play that back. Right. Rewind that. So you had, you could, you could tell us the time the first shot. So your initial is a 109. So just over one second from the buzzer to the first shot, um Looks like I got all four hits, one's on the line. Does that count? I don't know. I always say if it cuts the line, we, we give it, we're gonna drop that. And then uh so then were those splits consistent? The cadence on the is good. 31323333 can't get much more consistent than that for practical purposes. Ok. So I'm happy with that. Now the reload, reload was a 205205. So a two second reload with a charging handle from the back pocket. I'm actually, I'm super cool with that, right. Uh I'd like to see it under two seconds, but I'm not gonna complain too much about that then the transition. So I've got two shots in the, in the credit card. And what was the split time between there? Because theoretically that should be shorter or sorry, it should be longer than the split times of 33.6 split 0.6. So it's twice as long, which makes sense. That's, that's much less than half the size or twice as hard of a target. Absolutely. Ok. So, so realistically, I, I can say, sure I could improve. And maybe I said, what, what would you say is a goal for me as the instructor to try to work to, if I were going to do this 10 times in a row, you know, every time you come out based off what gun you're shooting? What siding system, what equipment, how I'm loading that time changes for me. Presentation is a skill I measure. So I like a 0.75 on the presentation and then mechanical offset. I'm looking at my splits, anything 25 to 4. I'm OK with it. I don't get wound up about superfast splits on this just because it's a stationary target. Ok. So your coaching to me then would be really get out of the gate faster, get that first shot off faster, get the shot faster. I mean, you could probably take just a little bit of Polish on the reload just to make it smoother. But other than that, it was a pretty decent run. The hits were there. That was the most important as we talk about all the right. So, hey, man, I really appreciate you doing this. Um Again, you know, Todd was a, was a great asset to the community and what I see with what you're doing with your version of this in, in EAG world now. And obviously, you're, you're building off a great legacy at EAG with Pat. And these are two guys who contribute a lot to our community. Um And here you are taking the fast drill and evolving it inside of the EAG banner which you now run under and evolving that and, and I, I really appreciate it. Thanks for having me. Thanks.
I like that drill for a pistol and it looks useful for a rifle also . Question: what was the distance it was shot at? Looked like 5 yards? Thanks